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  Attention: Active Jehovah's Witness Parents

  by Sea Breeze in

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  2. friends

  this young jw lady was shunned by her parents since she was 18 or 19 years old.

  she was befriended by the older man that you see in the picture.

  perhaps you recognize him?

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  joey jojo

  No parent has the right to shun their minor children based on religious beliefs. It is undoubtably a form of child abuse.

  Parents are responsible for the genetics and upbringing of their own children- in other words, they are 100% responsible for the way their children turn out. If they dont like it, they need to take a good hard look at themselves before blaming their children for their own careless parenting.

  The couple in the photo look like a typical JW couple. They probably feel that they are impressing other JW's and setting a good example by shunning their daughter and leaving her to the wolves.

  You want kids? Take responsibility and be a good parent. You dont get to wash your hands and walk away when things get a little tough.
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  How Do Jehovah's Witnesses View Education?

  by southyukon in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  i have a question about this article.. https://www.jw.org/en/jehovahs-witnesses/faq/jw-education-school/.

  higher education can lead to moral and spiritual dangers.

  a bible proverb says: "the shrewd one sees the danger and conceals himself.

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  joey jojo

  Critical thinking is the enemy of fundamental religion.

  JW's expect worldly people to criticise their own beliefs and the beliefs of their parents and friends, turn their backs on the ones they love and stop associating with them.

  However, JW's shut down the conversation when the slightest amount of deserved criticism is directed at the organisation or their beliefs.
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  Is There Going to be Money in the New System?

  by NotFormer in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  if not, what's in it for the gb?.

  but seriously, how is it supposed to work?

  pictures of jws in paradise show them raising crops, wearing clothes and building houses.

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  joey jojo

  As the broke housewife said to the tradesman, 'money is only one type of currency'. 🤔
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  Missing WT's on JW Org

  by joey jojo in

  1. watchtower
  2. bible

  when i browse jw org, the following years of watchtower magazines are missing from the drop-down menu:.

  1987 - 1990.

  1997-1998.. i dont want to install any libraries from jw org because of spyware concerns.. are these years included in the downloadable libraries?.

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  joey jojo

  
  

  St George of England
  I've just gone on jw dot org online library and they seem to be there. Has anyone else actually checked?
  Publications — Watchtower ONLINE LIBRARY (jw.org)
  Just one year 1987 as an example
  George

  If you go to jw.org/en/library/onlinelibrary/ , they are all there.

  But if you try jw.org/en/library/magazines/, the watchtowers I mentioned are missing in the drop-down menu.

  It could be a completely meaningless oversight. For some reason, you have a dig a little bit more to find those particular years.
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  Missing WT's on JW Org

  by joey jojo in

  1. watchtower
  2. bible

  when i browse jw org, the following years of watchtower magazines are missing from the drop-down menu:.

  1987 - 1990.

  1997-1998.. i dont want to install any libraries from jw org because of spyware concerns.. are these years included in the downloadable libraries?.

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  joey jojo

  Atlantis and Earnest.

  You are a legends. Thanks. 👍

  Are the same years missing for others on jw. Org?
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  Missing WT's on JW Org

  by joey jojo in

  1. watchtower
  2. bible

  when i browse jw org, the following years of watchtower magazines are missing from the drop-down menu:.

  1987 - 1990.

  1997-1998.. i dont want to install any libraries from jw org because of spyware concerns.. are these years included in the downloadable libraries?.

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  joey jojo

  When I browse JW Org, the following years of Watchtower magazines are missing from the drop-down menu:

  1987 - 1990

  1995

  1997-1998.

  I dont want to install any libraries from JW org because of spyware concerns.

  Are these years included in the downloadable libraries?

  Cheers.
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  Noah + new understanding

  by dothemath in

  1. watchtower
  2. bible

  so they mentioned noah couldn’t have preached to all the population back before the flood.

  do you think they might start using common sense regarding not being able to get every animal type on the ark from the whole world?.

  maybe the poor sloth from south america didn’t have to crawl all the way?

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  joey jojo

  Journeyman
  Ah, I guessed it wouldn't be long before cofty would see this thread and be along, proselytising for evolution! 🤣

  Actually, Cofty isnt proseltysing at all. Cofty is asking a very straightforward question- how did marsupials make it all the way to Australia from the Middle East, via the Americas? Its a route that only makes sense if the continents were once joined, which had to be eons before any mythical flood.

  Lets assume that Noahs flood happened 4500 odd years ago. At this point, South America and Australia about 16000 kms apart, separated by the South Pacific ocean. Even the most rabid bible apologist will find it hard to explain that migratory marsupial journey and still retain any self-respect.

  Ok, so what about via Asia to Australia? Well, then there is the small problem of the Wallace Line. Its is an imginary line that prevents most species of animals in Asia from crossing into Australia and is the dividing line where species are vastly different on either side. Thats why animals abundant in south east asia are not found in Australia, and vice versa, for example monkey's, tigers, cobras.

  So, it is really hard to explain the migration of animals to the rest of the world from the ark in a satisfactory way.
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  My conclusion on the matter

  by ExBethelitenowPIMA in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  after being brought up a jw, going to mts, bethel, pioneer school multiple times, serving in foreign assignments and having been an elder for decades my conclusion is that i am now pima, physically in mentally agnostic.. agnostic means you think it can’t be proven either way creation or evolution.

  i do tend to lean towards evolution but creation at the very start because you can’t get life from dead matter.

  but i’m open to the possibility of chance theory at the origin of it all.

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  joey jojo

  The 'god of the gaps' theory is one interesting idea that I became aware of later in life. For anyone that hasnt heard of it, it basically states that belief in god begins where our own personal understanding ends. Put another way, the existence of god is needed to explain things that science hasnt currently explained to someones personal level of satisfaction.

  To me its interesting because one person might be overwhelmingly convinced by scientific evidence and another may totally reject the exact same evidence. This can be a result of their own education, family beliefs, personal or religious beliefs.

  The idea that we reject something we personally dont understand is extremely vain when you think about it and all of us have probably been guilty of it. The fact that an idea has not been proven is not proof that the idea is false.

  Church attendance is apparently in decline. Is that a sign that freely available information on the internet has filed in a lot of gaps for formerly religious people?
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  The Watchtower—Study Edition | December 2023 ...Are you marriage material?

  by RULES & REGULATIONS in

  1. watchtower
  2. bible

  the watchtower—study edition | december 2023. study article 52. young sisters—become mature christian women.

  18 you may choose to get married.

  the qualities and skills that we have discussed will help you to become a capable wife.

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  joey jojo

  There was an uber elder in one of my congregations who had marriage rules for his daughters. They had to be over 20 yrs old and they had to marry a brother that was over 20, pioneering and a MS. So, the criteria was mostly based on how many hours the guy witnessed for a month.
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  No more REPORTING field service!!!!!!!!!

  by BoogerMan in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  this is going to break the hearts of a lot of uber-jw's!

  reddit has now removed the video link of samuel herd telling jw's they will no longer have to report time or placements - just tick a box which says "active.".

  https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=akdshyx79rm&t=13s.

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  joey jojo

  I agree that it may be a tactic that somehow protects the org legally. Are they going to end formal witnessing arrangements so that they can claim that no child is ever alone with an adult? Would they go that far? That has been one of their big defences in trying to duck CSA cases against them.

  The only outcome I can see is that most dubs will use at a way to drastically decrease the amount of witnessing they do. It feels like the exact opposite of 'speeding up the work'.